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Well, to those of you who have no testing requirements you should feel lucky. If you don't have to test the assemblies just take out the guts and internal parts and the backflow will never spew water. But remember the whole point of backflow is to protect the drinking water not worry about cheap prices on backflow parts.
Just so you all know febco is pure junk, you will have nothing but problems with these. I test backflow assemblies all the time and the fail rate is 70% of all febcos tested fail. Figures don't lie. Liars figure. Write that one down for a bumper sticker
WILKINS WILKINS WILKINS WILKINS YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!
Well sprinkler guy; I have noticed the 009 is a little better than the FEBCO 825Y. But like everyone has said, the checks are nothing but a pain in the you know what. They do fail much easier and are more sensitive to line pressure fluctuations. Just a little tip, if you ever have the relief valve dumping on an RP and can't fix it, just pull the relief valve spring. This is just a temporary fix. Remember the backflow is now failing. I have only had to do this once for a small surgery center, obv...
Hey wet boots, what do ya know a febco is FAILING!! Thats a first. The reason it is dumping the relief valve in a no flow condition is the #1 check valve is failed. With no flow zone 1 and 2 are equalizing pressure which is telling the relief valve to dump. You may be able to pull out the check module and flip the rubber disc. There may also be something stuck in the check itself. When the assembly is flowing water the checks equalize throughout. Therefore the relief does not care what the press...
There are many other factors that determine if a RPZ is failing. You cannot just rely on the relief valve dripping or dumping to determine if an assembly is failing. If what you mentioned was true there would be no need to ever test a RPZ assembly. You would just wait until it drips then repair it. Remember the ultimate goal for backflow is for protection of the drinking water supply. Not just ease of winterizing or cost. Think about it.
I have to agree with the cracked seats due to freezing. But it is worth to be able to replace a seat instead of replacing a backflow due to a pit or crack in the seat of a febco 825y. If you ask any true backflow tester they will tell you there are many more advantages to the wilkins 975XL. See Ya.
You will begin to notice on the watts 009 series the internal parts are all plastic. Those check modules will begin to crack with high pressure or freezing temps. Bets of luck with the "failing febcos"
To those who are in terested in backflow assembies. Here in california we see all differnet types of assemblies. We see every brand made. But as a certified tester, and Chief Distribution Operator of a large water system and Cross Connection Control Manager. I have no problem tooting the horn for wilkins priducts. They by far pass testing much more often than any other assembly. Wilkins is the easiest assembly to work on. The parts are inexpensive and easy to understand the products manuals. Jus...
yes, febco is nothing but junk, all they are good for is recycling. i test and repair febcos on a weekly basis. i highly reccomend Wilkins. model 975 xl. you will be very happy with these. hope this helps.
WET BOOTS DO YOU TEST BACKFLOW ASSEMBLIES OR REPAIR THEM?
To all who actually test and repair backflow assemblies you should know by now that anything with the name "febco" is nothing better that a 8 lb. brass paper weight. Lets all do eachother a foavor and never install or replace a febco piece of junk again.
You can go through a company out of california called "Bavco" the stock parts for every backflow assembly ever made. They will also ship your parts overnight. The sales staff is very helpful they know all parts for all vackflow assemblies. Their phone # is 1-800-458-3492. The website www.bavco.com. Hope this helps. Tyler Napier Tehachapi Backflow Service
Do not buy a febco again. Always buy Wilkins!!
From what I have read (USC 9th edition, DHS title 17) a DC is not approved for a sprinkler system. By the way no backflow should be installed below ground. The test cocks are a potential cross connection.
I am having a problem with a 3" Wilkins 975 RP. I have replaced all the rubbers and the Relief Valve Spring. But I still can't get the relief valve to open during the test process. I am blown away with this. Hopefully someone will be able to help me.
When you try to turn the water off you need to make sure that the handles are side to side not up and down. It sounds like the handles are just bad. You also might try to take the handles off the valve and just use a cresent wrench and turn the valve off, once again make sure that the little brass bolt that the handle bolts to is up and down that will guarntee that the water is off. I hope this helps.
The only advice that I can offer is: if at all possible change out the watts and install a wilkins 975XL this assembly is easy to work on a will not fail as often as a junk watts or febco.
