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You won't regret taking the precaution, if for no other reason than for being a step ahead of regulations, and not having to rework the system later on.
If you are on your own pump/well with non-drinkable water, why bother with a backflow?...The "down the road is BS". They cannot make you add something to it after the fact..Called grandfathered in..
Codes, are great if you follow them...They are they for people that do not get it.
This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "HooKooDooKu" (Sep 13th 2009, 12:55am)
I believe you will not find "grandfathering in" as one of your constitutional rights. It is a legal fact that the water is the property of the state, and they get to require its protection as they see fit. And code changes do get made as regards water safety, and there is no question that old sprinkler systems don't get grandfathered in, unless there was a specific mention of it.You won't regret taking the precaution, if for no other reason than for being a step ahead of regulations, and not having to rework the system later on.
If you are on your own pump/well with non-drinkable water, why bother with a backflow?...The "down the road is BS". They cannot make you add something to it after the fact..Called grandfathered in..
Codes, are great if you follow them...They are they for people that do not get it.
I believe you will not find "grandfathering in" as one of your constitutional rights. It is a legal fact that the water is the property of the state, and they get to require its protection as they see fit. And code changes do get made as regards water safety, and there is no question that old sprinkler systems don't get grandfathered in, unless there was a specific mention of it.
You won't regret taking the precaution, if for no other reason than for being a step ahead of regulations, and not having to rework the system later on.
If you are on your own pump/well with non-drinkable water, why bother with a backflow?...The "down the road is BS". They cannot make you add something to it after the fact..Called grandfathered in..
Codes, are great if you follow them...They are they for people that do not get it.
My point was that if he is on HIS own water (aka well), do what you want..If on city water, you would need a backflow by code. Again codes are great IF they are enforced; most times zero.
With states etc needing money, I will bet they will try to follow the rules on the books...
As long as you employ wording like "HIS own water" it is very clear that you do not comprehend the laws regarding water supplies. Be it well or pond or creek, it is never "your water" ~ all the water in and on the ground belongs to the state. This has been an established fact of our laws for generations. It doesn't take any great leap of imagination to understand why. Say the richest man on the hilltop estate drills a well deeper than any for miles and miles around, and a drought begins to lower the water tables. The rich guy does not possess any legal basis upon which to draw as much water as he might want from his well, once he is instructed by state authorities to quit being a hog.
I believe you will not find "grandfathering in" as one of your constitutional rights. It is a legal fact that the water is the property of the state, and they get to require its protection as they see fit. And code changes do get made as regards water safety, and there is no question that old sprinkler systems don't get grandfathered in, unless there was a specific mention of it.
You won't regret taking the precaution, if for no other reason than for being a step ahead of regulations, and not having to rework the system later on.
If you are on your own pump/well with non-drinkable water, why bother with a backflow?...The "down the road is BS". They cannot make you add something to it after the fact..Called grandfathered in..
Codes, are great if you follow them...They are they for people that do not get it.
My point was that if he is on HIS own water (aka well), do what you want..If on city water, you would need a backflow by code. Again codes are great IF they are enforced; most times zero.
With states etc needing money, I will bet they will try to follow the rules on the books...
As long as you employ wording like "HIS own water" it is very clear that you do not comprehend the laws regarding water supplies. Be it well or pond or creek, it is never "your water" ~ all the water in and on the ground belongs to the state. This has been an established fact of our laws for generations. It doesn't take any great leap of imagination to understand why. Say the richest man on the hilltop estate drills a well deeper than any for miles and miles around, and a drought begins to lower the water tables. The rich guy does not possess any legal basis upon which to draw as much water as he might want from his well, once he is instructed by state authorities to quit being a hog.
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If you want to understand how things can turn out when the concept of "It's my water and I will do as I wish with it" can turn out, just read about the Johnstown Flood.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "debo" (Sep 14th 2009, 4:18pm)
In the other state I live, you do NOT NEED a backflow and that is also in CT, IF only used for lawns. And that IS per code..So do not post like you know all since in this situation, you lack. That is again why I said if not city water, you can do what you want.
It also depends on your location, my MA city "The Water Division also recommends backflow protection for private wells". Does not say you MUST have one.
And what location did the Original Poster provide, for you to pronounce judgement on what is what. Today's non-existent regulations can become tomorrow's iron-clad requirements, and when it comes to water supplies, the powers that be can be entirely remorseless in using their enforcement powers to get what they want. Homes can be condemned over lack of backflow prevention, and it's all legal and proper. Why not spend a few bucks, and head them off at the pass? That the system won't have to be reworked after some remedial plumbing is a nice bonus.
As long as you employ wording like "HIS own water" it is very clear that you do not comprehend the laws regarding water supplies. Be it well or pond or creek, it is never "your water" ~ all the water in and on the ground belongs to the state. This has been an established fact of our laws for generations. It doesn't take any great leap of imagination to understand why. Say the richest man on the hilltop estate drills a well deeper than any for miles and miles around, and a drought begins to lower the water tables. The rich guy does not possess any legal basis upon which to draw as much water as he might want from his well, once he is instructed by state authorities to quit being a hog.
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`
If you want to understand how things can turn out when the concept of "It's my water and I will do as I wish with it" can turn out, just read about the Johnstown Flood.
In the other state I live, you do NOT NEED a backflow and that is also in CT, IF only used for lawns. And that IS per code..So do not post like you know all since in this situation, you lack. That is again why I said if not city water, you can do what you want.
It also depends on your location, my MA city "The Water Division also recommends backflow protection for private wells". Does not say you MUST have one.
And what location did the Original Poster provide, for you to pronounce judgement on what is what. Today's non-existent regulations can become tomorrow's iron-clad requirements, and when it comes to water supplies, the powers that be can be entirely remorseless in using their enforcement powers to get what they want. Homes can be condemned over lack of backflow prevention, and it's all legal and proper. Why not spend a few bucks, and head them off at the pass? That the system won't have to be reworked after some remedial plumbing is a nice bonus.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "debo" (Sep 25th 2009, 7:43pm)