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Thanks! I'll do that today.

Frank D.

Wetboots, I have no problem buying a pressure gauge. I did find one on the Sprinkler Warehouse website, and I looked around the area stores to see if they had one. I'm only down here for a few weeks, and was hoping I could fix it sooner without waiting for parts.

I just was not sure about the proper way to use it to determine what my problem was. The one on the website states it is a female hose thread. I now see that a 3/4" female hose thread will thread into the same male adapter as what the sprinkler heads screw on to. I will place an order for one today, if not for this problem, then for future ones.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I'm not sure how a pressure gauge will help in this case. There are 5 sprinkler heads on this line. Four rotor heads and one smaller corner (45 degree) sprayer head. The head closest to the zone valve has the least water flowing from it. The others have some spraying, about 4 feet with a very weak stream....not enough to raise the rotor head more then half way.

I checked the zone valve. It is not the zone valve. I unscrewed it and the same amount of water came out of it as the other ones. I even took off the zone valve and replaced it with one of the old ones, and the problem is the same. So, it is not the zone valve. My apologies if that is not the proper way to check it, but without a pressure gauge (I could not find one anywhere around here) it was the easiest way for me to determine weather it was the zone valve. The chance of two zone valves not working is nill, so I'm sure it is not the zone valve.

So, I guess it is in the pipe? Do I have a broken pipe? How will the pressure gauge help me determine where the problem is? I already know there is hardly any pressure at the first rotor, and not much more at the other ones.

I did run that zone for 90 minutes last night hoping I would find a very wet spot somewhere, but I did not.

Thank you for your help. Sorry for the long post.

Frank D.

Thank you Wet Boots.
I went to both "big box" stores, and then I did just find one at a small hardware store here...so now I do have one.
In our neighborhood, we only have one water meter, and the sprinkler system goes off of the main line before it goes to the house.

I'll put it on a hose bib first to tell you the house pressure, then turn on the different zones and get readings. I'll then take the first rotor head off and put it on that. Because the rest of the heads on that zone will still be open, it won't be a static pressure, but I hope that helps.

Thanks again for your help.

Frank D.

Ok, now I understand more the reason for the pressure gauge.........DUH. Sorry......I was thinking you wanted me to attach the gauge on each pipe going to each rotor head.

I hooked up the gauge to a hose bib and this is what I have;

Ok, With no sprinklers on and nothing on in the house, I have a pressure of 72.
With nothing on in the house, my readings are per zone;

Zone #1..... 63
Zone #2......62
Zone#3.......60
Zone #4......46

Zone #4 is the bad one that has hardly any water coming out of the heads.

Now I understand how the pressure gauge helps. I'm guessing that since the pressure is so low in zone #4, and the valve is working, water is flowing good without coming out of the heads, indicating a leak, or broken pipe.

Now, I also understand that the leak could be anywhere on zone. Where would you suggest I start digging, I'm I'm correct? Around each of the five heads, especially where a mower could run over one?

I do not want to get ahead of myself.......I'll wait for you experts to let me know what to do next. Thank you for the help.

MrFixit,

Believe it or not, that is exactly what I did after I posted. I thought it had to be a leak because of the low pressure.
I first wiggled each riser, then dug down a bit to see, figuring that in the past whenever I had a break, it was close to a riser. This time no breaks were found. I then capped off each riser with 3/4" female caps. I then turned the zone back on.

All of a sudden, in a place I did not think there were any pipes, I had a bubbling up of water, like Niagara Falls...!
I found the break. Actually, about a foot of pipe was snapped off, and I have NO IDEA where it went. You could tell it had been this way for a long time. I just repaired it, and will turn it back on and test tomorrow.

I learned some good stuff from you good people this time. A pressure gauge is a great tool to diagnose. Wet Boots was correct...it's a good tool to own. I did not understand how it would help at first, but then it all fell into place and I understood.

Again, thank you all for your good help. I enjoy learning about sprinkler systems, first, because I now own one, and second, there are many senior citizens in my neighborhood down here who can't seem to get anyone to help them with sprinkler problems. The more I learn the more I can help them.

thanks, Frank D.